MediaWiki GIT (2005.12.05 14:01:08)

We currently migrate to MediaWiki from our old installation, but not all content has been migrated yet. Take a look at the Wiki Team page for instructions how to help or browse through our new wiki at wiki.linux-vserver.org to find the information already migrated.

Goal of this page

to have Linux-VServer project as a whole a bit more structured and accessible... Therefor this should be the place to get a vision of the future structure of the site and the system behind it:

This topic needs to be divided into three parts:

1. the webfrontend/website
2. source-code/pach-management-solution
3. tools to get bertl to use it :)

Suggestions for goal 1

Shameless copy of the ThinkTank page:

This is a copy of work which is done on this topic before. This, in the end, shows the whole dilemma - there are some guys working on a topic and the work is overseen in the first place to get the work done the second time... But anyhow, here we go (BenBen?):

Web design and look

1. Do we want a http://sourceforge.net look with a lot of info on the first page?
2. Do we want a http://www.debian.org look with left navigation, menubar and wide sectioned main part?
3. Do we want a http://www.freebsd.org/ look with left navigation, midle sections and right news column ?

Björn:

I'd go for the second choice, without the navigation bar at the top, just the navigation menu on the left.

The third one is really ugly if you're using small browser windows and the first one has too much information for my taste, especially the multiple column stuff isn't to my likings, i prefer just reading from top to bottom once.

Wiki-/Page-Concept

I like the wiki concept but we will end up having some kind of forzen part at the front (top of the web)

Would someone like to recommend some kind of Web admin or Groupware or organizing software?

Tiki - http://tikiwiki.sourceforge.net - Wiki,Blogs etc. Allows having Groups of users and setting ACLs on Group basis.

Bitweaver - http://www.bitweaver.org/

WackoWiki? - http://wackowiki.com/ - Wiki with ACLs, allows having Groups of users and setting ACLs on User/Group basis. Official version works with mySQL, I'm (romke) preparing version for PostgreSQL?...

TUTOS is a tool to manage the organizational needs of small groups, teams, or departments.

http://www.tutos.org

What about drupal???

http://drupal.org/

Please have a look at http://drupal.org/handbook/is-drupal-right-for-you

Requirements for goal 3

• The following patterns have been observed:
  • deltas apply to specific branches
  • some deltas apply unmodified to more than one branch
  • some deltas have two (or more) 'forms' for different branches
  • some deltas are incremental to a previous one (similar named)
  • others replace a previous delta
  • avoid typing the same text twice
  • sometimes we decide to remove/revert a delta
  • a changelog page in the wiki would be best
  • a directory like: vserver.13thfloor.at/Devel

doener: ok, so we need a script that accepts the name of some delta(s), opens vi(m), allows you to write a small text, classify the deltas (branch etc.), stores information in a local ChangeLog(s) ( and data file ) and updates the correct ChangeLog(s) in the wiki and maybe start scp to upload the deltas. that's about all (assuming that the above requirements are met), right?

Bertl yep, that's it, the 'options' could be on command line or in the text as check fields

Suggestions

trac+svn (BenBen?)

pro:

• nice to see
• deployed widly
• integrated as possible

cons:

• not possible for the kernel/patches

mediawiki+webgit+vim plugin ;) (zeng)

pro:

• mediawiki is widly deployed
• git is used for kernel-development
• vim is used by, nearly, all of us

cons:

mediawiki+scp(Bertl)

pro:

• mediawiki is widly deployed
• simple

cons:

• no possibility to get previous versions out of it
• not possible to have "uncoordinated" collaboration in development

zeng BTW: just found this: http://mozex.mozdev.org and http://www.vim.org/tips/tip.php?tip_id=581 (Using vim to view source and edit textarea in mozilla/firebird) ;)